2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: What about pants and shoes? And what color? Can you describe his body shape, like does he have long limbs or is he broad and muscular? (I know he's tall and has some weight to him, mostly muscle I assume.)

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: And for his hair, is it straight with no bangs? Does he have a low ponytail or a high one? (Like does he have it at the chin line on the top of his neck or is it higher, like the middle of the back of his head?) And what symbol is on his forehead protector?

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: And which eye is which?
Ignore the pant color, but what style? Is he modeled just like Kekashi but his shirt is more form-fitting and fishnet?

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: And for the fishnet, does it have a definite end or does it kinda fray off? And what color is his skin? (I'm assuming the fishnet is black.)

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: OH! And does the fishnet shirt have large or small holes?
For the vest, is it unbuttoned, open, to see his chest or is it completely closed? Is it literally a zipper or buttons? (If you can get a reference, that'd be awesome!)

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: Can you describe his tattoo and necklace? And which finger is the ring on?

Um...I think that's all the questions I have for now. If you wanna find reference pictures for some of the questions and say "Just like that" that's fine. I don't mind word description either. C:

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: OH! Do you want his weapons on him or no? And if so, do you want a reference sheet that shows the whole thing, with and without gear and maybe in regular street clothes? (I'll do a zoom of his face, the necklace, and his tattoo; have a separate one with the gear.)

2009-12-05 [Lin Star]: Um, would you want me to just make one big sheet for him and his sister? Since they're both like...ya know, holding in demons and stuff...lol

2009-12-05 [KnightAngel]: Hmmm... Well would be cool with the knucklebusters either in hand or at least like hanging from his belt or something like that, so they're visible but if it messes up the drawing then it's cool without as well ^^ for tattoo and necklace... Well thought the general leaping tiger style variant (preferably into a sort of circle for the tattoo) for hair, chin line and straight, bodyform is somewhat slim yet with somewhat showing muscles, like he doesn't look weak but he isn't either a guy with humongous popeye arms XP Shoes are sort of like naruto's and black, his left eye is the sharingan one and the other the byakugan and yeah somewhat like kakashi just more formsitting yeap :P Skin is slightly dark yellowish due to tan from being out in the sun alot due to missions and stuff like that, I'd go with zipper now that you mention it XP ringfinger

2009-12-05 [KnightAngel]: Symbol on the protector
Something like his was what I had in mind for his netshirt :P And for about him and his sister would be fun :P

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: Cool!...um...where can I find her? lol

Okay, I might need a reference for the knuckle busters.

Hmm...okay, I'll check on the rest for stuff. lol C:

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: Are there bangs? Is the vest longer than his over shirt and is it zipped up or open or half way?

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: Is this okay for the knuckle busters or do you have something else in mind?

2009-12-06 [KnightAngel]: That was exactly what I had in mind and well I think it's on a page named "Pyre en li" but I'm not sure XP And what kind of bangs? Where? And well for the vest then yeah it's longer then his netshirt :P Zipped only partially, so as much as his macho bossom is revealed while still he's having it sort of closed so he won't directly be called a manwhore, despite him being it XP

2009-12-06 [KnightAngel]: otherwise they both are on a page named Naruto Character Creations

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: Okay. Good to know. C:

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: I can't find Nong's sister's page. :C You know you can look in "Your Notes", press Ctrl+f, then type in Pyre for easy location. ;]

2009-12-06 [KnightAngel]: It's the one at the top :P Even though it's spelled prye ^^

2009-12-06 [Lin Star]: ...oh wow. I totally spelled it wrong. >,< I feel dumb.
But I just went to that page (Prye En Li AND Pyre En Li even though the second is spelled wrong) and it is a blank page.

2009-12-07 [KnightAngel]: No no it's on Naruto Character Creations and there ontop of that page there is a char named prye, that's Pyre, Nong's kid-sister ^^

2009-12-07 [KnightAngel]: The one owned by [Dark Shiva]

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: No wonder! I thought she was yours! x.x

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: Great, now I've got a million questions about Prye, too. lol

2009-12-07 [KnightAngel]: *chuckles* well that would be best asked to the owner of that char XP We just after talking together and stuff figured they should be siblings ^^'

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: So she would also be Hyuga with the Byakugan or would she have changed her name to En Li from something else? (I wish she made a wiki just for Prye. lol)

2009-12-07 [KnightAngel]: She's his sister by blood, that's what we've come to an agreement on :P

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: Hmm. Good to know. I'll have to ask her about it. *procrastinates like crazy*

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: And I've been meaning to ask, and I don't know if you answered this or not, but the Jounin vest is like this?

And how would the fishnet tie in? I know you said t-shirt, but I wanna make sure. And does it have a definite end or just fray off on the sleeves and bottom?

2009-12-07 [Lin Star]: And my brother pointed out that since you have the Sharingan, would you have the forehead protector over it like Kakashi
He said that since yours is surgically implanted that it'd always be on and constantly draining your chakra and you'd die if it was always on.

2009-12-08 [KnightAngel]: Yeah sort of like that was the idea, just opened up so thereby revealing the fishnet shirt and yes that was exactly what I wrote as well up there, except I think considering his bloodline he might not actually die from it due to the relation with the byakugan and the sharingan ^^' Definite ends by the way to increase the strength of the protection.

2009-12-08 [Lin Star]: Well, they both spring from the same kind of jutsu involving the eyes, so maybe not since he's used to Byakugan, but just something to think about. Wasn't really that concerned with it; I just like drawing the sharingan because of the comma things in it. C: lol

2009-12-08 [KnightAngel]: *grins* Well you can, like it would fit with the knuckle busters, as if he is in battle or something, you know? :P And well jutsu and jutsu, more bloodline :P

2009-12-08 [Lin Star]: Yup. C: *not worried about it that much*
Um, how many people have you asked to draw Nong? And do you already have some drawn somewhere?

2009-12-08 [KnightAngel]: None drawn and maybe second person or first is you :P I'm not really sure, mostly it's actually D'aron I ask people to draw because I can't draw if the world's population were depending on it XP

2009-12-08 [Lin Star]: lol Well, you have a talent in another area than drawing, sweetie. C: Not everyone can be an artist because if we were, nothing would ever get done but painting and drawing and using a ton of paper. xD

2009-12-09 [KnightAngel]: *chuckles* Well rather that then the current warmongering XP

2009-12-10 [Lin Star]: xD Yup yup. Um, I had something sketched out, but my scanner's on the fritz and I can't find batteries for my camera. x.x It sucks being broke. So I'll just have to sketch stuff with my tablet (which isn't portable like paper and pencil are, lol) but I hope to get something to you by this weekend, at the latest. I've been doodling male anatomy a lot lately, though. >,< It's definitely not my forte. xD

2009-12-10 [KnightAngel]: *chuckles* Yeah a lot of artist friends seems to have that problem :P And well whenever you have time and opportunity ^^' No rush :P

2009-12-10 [Lin Star]: No, a lot of female artists. I know one reason I draw girls well is because I can see the anatomy of them daily. But I know guys prefer looking at female anatomy and not their own so I can see how a general overview of "artists have issues with male anatomy" is true. lol
But I know, I know. No rush...I just wanna get something down so I can keep working on stuff. lol I've been making to-do lists, lately, and some of them don't always include everything, like I'm knitting scarves for people for christmas. Guess how many scarves are done...okay, just 2. I need to make like 100 million more. lol

2009-12-10 [KnightAngel]: OKay and well pretty much almost all my artist friends are female so yeah XP And for the male ones, don't really seem to have problems with male :P

2009-12-11 [Lin Star]: See? My point exactly. C: xD I really do need to get something down, though. It's all on paper and I need it in my computer to work. x.x

2009-12-11 [KnightAngel]: Okay ^^ I can only imagine how that must be ^^'

2009-12-11 [Lin Star]: lol Well, imagine away, hun. You've got some time to do it. >,<

2009-12-14 [KnightAngel]: I hope so XP

2010-09-24 [~Crimson Angel~]: Wow, Nong sounds hot!

2010-09-24 [KnightAngel]: Thank you ^_^

2010-09-24 [~Crimson Angel~]: Your welcome. =^.^=

2010-09-25 [KnightAngel]: Only wished I had some drawings of him though XP Unfortunately I can't draw anything worth mentioning XP

2010-09-25 [~Crimson Angel~]: lol Sorry dude, if I could draw I'd help you out, oh, maybe I could get a friend to draw him for you.

2010-09-25 [KnightAngel]: *smiles* that would be cool and well as can be seen up there in the other comments then I asked someone else but yeah that person unfortunately haven't been on lately and even so it would be cool to have more, seeing people's interpretations of him and such XP

2010-09-25 [~Crimson Angel~]: Ok, I'll ask my friend and get back to you.

2010-09-25 [KnightAngel]: Okay thanks I appreciate it ^^

2010-09-25 [~Crimson Angel~]: No problem.

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: (peeks in and waves) I tend to draw females too. Grew up with two elder sisters as well as being a girl myself. Only guy in my family is my Dad and he's ummm... (makes circular motion with hands) round. Ok he's a hobbit like Bilbo Baggins in the cartoon. Plus I prefer curves and swirls to angles and straight lines. They flow better.

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: Question about his tiger tattoo... where is it? On his arm maybe?

2010-11-14 [KnightAngel]: Ah, don't remember where I wanted to have it now that I think about it XP Think I imagined it on his neck but actually arm sounds pretty good too :P Adding more of a manly touch to him XP

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: (flexes muscles and grunts) Don't I look manly?

2010-11-14 [KnightAngel]: *grins and hugs* Well probably more than me, I got quite a lot of feminine appearance that I've been mistaken as one many times, even been called so by my stepmom by accident once XP

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: (blinks) you think I'd look manly? Well... maybe in my eyebrows and hairiness in general. I'd give bushy brow a run for his money in the eyebrow department. I blame it on my dad.

2010-11-14 [KnightAngel]: *chuckles and hugs* Meant more that I look that much feminine XP

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: Well then you have to be an anime style guy, most of them are a bit difficult to tell apart from females anyway. Personally though, from your pictures I don't think you look girly at all.

2010-11-14 [KnightAngel]: *chuckles and shrugs* Well some do think so XP

2010-11-14 [Elwyne]: Well, you certainly seem more understanding and nice than most guys I've met.

2010-11-14 [KnightAngel]: *smiles and bows* Thank you and well that's another thing according to what I've been told that adds to my feminine touch XP

2010-11-19 [Elwyne]: hrmmm... a couple more questions. First of all what do you mean by semi-fingerless gloves? Also any particular finger for the ring? I think the vest is the same as kakashi and guy wear right?

2010-11-19 [KnightAngel]: *Nods* For the semi fingerless gloves then I mean much like those for example Kakashi use and Kankuro and some others, for the vest then yeah, he did become a anbu and jounin in Konoha first so yeah that's the one he still uses ^^

2010-11-19 [Elwyne]: oh! Does he have the leaf symbol on his headband or does he use something else? And if so what does it look like?

2010-11-19 [KnightAngel]: Well he still has that one but currently he now uses the hidden waterfall symbol instead -->

2010-11-19 [Elwyne]: oh I see... (nods and sketches for future reference)

2010-11-24 [Elwyne]: Hrmm... I was going to put Nong's pic up in here too, but I'm guessing it's an owner only edit page.

2010-11-24 [KnightAngel]: Hmm, forgot it was and it's up now, once again thanks a load Elwy ^_^

2010-11-24 [Elwyne]: (grins shyly) I'm so glad you like him! I usually can't do males at all well.

2010-11-24 [KnightAngel]: Well you did a great job with him and totally love that smug smirk he has XD

2010-11-24 [~Crimson Angel~]: He's hot.

2010-11-24 [Elwyne]: better be careful my head my swell up! (smiles happily anyway)

2010-11-24 [~Crimson Angel~]: lol Let it.

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